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2021-10-17 20:45:26

THE WEST BLOCK
Episode 49, Season 10
Sunday, October 17, 2021

Host: Abigail Bimman

Friends:
Invoice Blair, Public Security Minister
Nathan Friedland, Emergency Room Nurse, Montreal

MP Panel:
Lena Metlege Diab, Liberal MP-Elect, Halifax West
Melissa Lantsman, Conservative MP, Thornhill
Lisa Marie Barron, NDP MP-Elect, Nanaimo—Ladysmith

Location: Ottawa, ON

Abigail Bimman: This week on The West Block: A inexperienced gentle for American highway journeys.

Chrystia Freeland, Deputy Prime Minister: “We’re working to make clear and finalize all the small print.”

Abigail Bimman: What it is advisable to know earlier than crossing the border.

Two months between election day and the following Parliament? We’ll get a recent tackle the brand new session from a few of Ottawa’s freshest faces with a panel of recent MPs.

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And, what to do about unvaccinated well being care employees.

Christian Dubé: “If we proceed like this, we’ll run right into a wall.”

Abigail Bimman: Quebec extends a deadline, susceptible to dropping as many as 25 thousand workers.

It’s Sunday, October seventeenth. I’m Abigail Bimman, and that is The West Block. Mercedes Stephenson is away immediately.

Nicely, some massive information this week for Canadians seeking to head south for highway journeys, household reunions and holidays. Come November, america will open its land borders to vaccinated foreigners, no COVID check required.

Jim Diodati, Niagara Falls Mayor: “Household on each side, pals on each side, we buy groceries forwards and backwards. It’s an actual symbiotic relationship.”

Abigail Bimman: For greater than two months, Canada’s borders have been open to vaccinated People any manner they wish to cross. However because the begin of the pandemic, Canadians couldn’t drive to the U.S.

Patty Hajdu, Well being Minister: “It’s been extremely complicated for travellers.”

Abigail Bimman: That may change November eighth. You’ll be requested about your vaccination standing on the land border. You gained’t want to point out proof except you’re screened additional. You will have to point out proof to fly to the U.S. You gained’t want a COVID check to enter that nation by land, however Canada nonetheless requires a detrimental PCR check on the way in which again.

Chrystia Freeland, Deputy Prime Minister: “Our measures have been versatile they usually have tailored to altering circumstances.”

Abigail Bimman: And on the Canadian facet, we nonetheless have this conflicting recommendation about whether or not it’s a good suggestion to journey in any respect.

Patty Hajdu, Well being Minister: “We nonetheless have journey advisories in place, recommending that folks don’t journey except it’s completely crucial.”

Abigail Bimman: And to interrupt all that down, we’re joined by Public Security Minister Invoice Blair.

Minister, thanks for being right here. I wish to begin with these phrases out of your colleague Patty Hajdu on our present final week, saying now just isn’t the time to journey. It’s a complicated message with the U.S. and Canada making it simpler to cross the border. What’s your message to Canadians who wish to journey?

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Invoice Blair, Public Security Minister: Nicely, definitely we perceive that there’s a really robust pent up demand for individuals who wish to journey. Many Canadian snowbirds for instance, are anxiously ready to search out out in the event that they’ll be capable of go south for the winter. However on the similar time, we additionally acknowledge that in worldwide journey, when folks journey into international locations the place the circumstances can change, and we’ve seen that occur all through the pandemic, Abigail, the place, you recognize, the foundations have abruptly modified and other people haven’t been in a position to get in a foreign country, or they might be confronted with, you recognize, final minute modifications in numerous jurisdictions the place a journey advisory stays in place. However we’re additionally taking motion to be sure that individuals who do select to journey can accomplish that safely, and significantly for absolutely vaccinated travellers with the event, and it’s effectively underway, the work on a global proof of vaccination certificates system and likewise with the brand new guidelines being introduced reciprocal between ourselves and america now, whereby travellers to each Canada and america who’re absolutely vaccinated, will be capable of enter the nation for non-essential functions.

Abigail Bimman: Minister, you speak about, you recognize, being conscious or being cautious heading to sure areas, do you assume that the federal government’s blanket journey advisory must be extra focused?

Invoice Blair, Public Security Minister: Nicely I believe finally it is going to evolve that manner and one of many issues—and, you recognize, the deputy prime minister made reference to it, over the course of all the pandemic, the recommendation that we’ve been receiving from our well being officers, and we monitor very rigorously the information and the proof from world wide and that recommendation has continued to evolve, we’re additionally seeing now that with the proof of vaccination, verification that’s being put in place, in addition to the utility of the detrimental PCR checks that we’ve additionally put in place, these measures have confirmed to be fairly efficient in defending our communities and Canadians from the introduction of COVID at our borders and so we’ll proceed to be taught from these classes and modify our recommendation as applicable. However in each case, we take heed to the science. We take heed to the recommendation of our public well being businesses and we work very intently and collaboratively with our worldwide companions.

Abigail Bimman: We definitely anticipate extra Canadians to hit the highway subsequent month to the U.S., and with a view to make issues simpler your authorities has been promising a vaccine certification or vaccine passport system for months. Are you able to give us any replace on when that will probably be prepared, particularly?

Invoice Blair, Public Security Minister: Truly, there’s been a substantial amount of work finished on that and the prime minister’s indicated that it stays a really vital precedence for us. We all know that an internationally acknowledged proof of vaccination certificates goes to be crucial and really useful to Canadians who select to journey overseas. And so I’m very assured that within the coming weeks, we will probably be introducing these certificates. There’s nonetheless some work that’s being finished with our provincial companions the place the information is definitely resident and to be sure that that’s obtainable to Canadians proper throughout the nation. However some actual progress has been made and I’m assured my colleague, the minister from immigration, will probably be making these bulletins within the coming weeks. However a substantial amount of work has been finished and we’ve promised that we’re going to get this job finished as rapidly as doable and the prime minister has definitely indicated that it stays a precedence for our authorities.

Abigail Bimman: Are you able to make a promise that that will probably be earlier than this date of November eighth when Canadians will be capable of journey to the U.S. by highway, by land?

Invoice Blair, Public Security Minister: I all the time assume it’s vital to over carry out and below promise, however on the similar time I’m very assured that that work has been progressing very, very effectively and that we are going to have in place for plenty of Canadian travellers that certificates by that date. However there are nonetheless another contingencies that must be addressed. We’re working via them as rapidly as doable and I believe in our conversations with the provinces and territories, I believe everyone acknowledges the significance of a global—you recognize they speak about a vaccine passport. It’s proof of vaccination certification that may be accepted internationally. We’ve been working actually arduous on that. The work, by the way in which, continued all through all the summer season. We now have been engaged on this for a number of months and the outcomes of that onerous work will probably be introduced within the coming weeks.

Abigail Bimman: So many items of this puzzle and so many, you recognize a lot altering data and particulars. I want to get you to make clear your understanding a few check requirement for Canadians coming into america by air versus by land.

Invoice Blair, Public Security Minister: For a number of months now, Canadians have required—travellers coming into this nation, each Canadians and People and international nations to be absolutely vaccinated and to point out proof of a detrimental PCR check. We perceive with the brand new laws being put in by america, they don’t seem to be going to require that detrimental PCR check at land borders, however they will retain the requirement for folks arriving internationally by air into america that they be each absolutely vaccinated and that they’ve the outcomes of a detrimental PCR check taken inside the earlier 72 hours, precisely the identical commonplace and requirement that Canada may have for worldwide air travellers as effectively.

Abigail Bimman: All proper. We’ll have to depart it there. Thanks a lot in your time Public Security Minister Invoice Blair.

Invoice Blair, Public Security Minister: Thanks very a lot, Abigail.

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Abigail Bimman: And yet another vital piece of the puzzle. Late Friday, the Centres for Illness Management and Prevention launched a essential replace: Individuals who acquired blended doses of COVID-10 vaccines will probably be eligible to enter to america subsequent month. The company stopped in need of recommending the blended dose follow within the U.S., however now acknowledges it’s an more and more widespread vaccination technique elsewhere on the planet. That features Canada the place practically 4 million individuals are believed to have acquired doses of two completely different vaccines.

We requested Minister Blair about this earlier than the CDC made its announcement. Right here’s what he mentioned in regards to the Canadian Authorities’s position.

Invoice Blair, Public Security Minister: I can let you know, we’ve been working very intently with our American counterparts. Our well being officers have been offering the information, the proof in our research, which have demonstrated, I believe, and proven very clearly, the efficacy and the effectiveness of the blended dosage regime that was put in place in Canada. We supplied that proof to the CDC.

Abigail Bimman: Nicely up subsequent, they gained the election, now they wait to take their seat within the Home of Commons for the primary time. We check-in with new MPs about their targets for the following session of Parliament.

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Abigail Bimman: Tomorrow marks one month because the federal election. A brand new cupboard will probably be unveiled 9 days from now and the Home set to renew November twenty second. And when it does, there will probably be a number of dozen new faces and we wish their tackle what comes subsequent.

Becoming a member of me now could be a panel of recent MPs-Elect from coast to coast. In Halifax, now we have Liberal Lena Metlege Diab; in Thornhill, Ontario, Conservative Melissa Lantsman; and in Nanaimo, B.C., now we have New Democrat Lisa Marie Barron. Thanks all for being right here. I’m going to leap proper in. I’m going to begin with Ms. Metlege Diab. We all know now the Home will come again greater than two months after the election, I wish to know the place is the federal government accountability there? We obtained a message from Canadians electing a minority Parliament. They need you to work with different events, so why take so lengthy to get again to work?

Lena Metlege Diab, Liberal MP-Elect, Halifax West: Let me say merci beaucoup for having us right here on this panel. I’m very happy that I’m with an all-female panel right here, and very happy that Canadians have elected essentially the most feminine MPs to the Home of Commons, significantly as we rejoice the 100 12 months anniversary for the primary girl to get elected.

So to your query, Canadians need us to get the job finished and I’m very happy and actually excited to be a part of the brand new MPs, to have the ability to work with my caucus colleagues and likewise with different colleagues throughout the aisle with a view to do the vital issues that Canadians need us to do.

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Having mentioned that, the federal government has continued to do the good work that it had been doing, significantly on guaranteeing that Canadians are saved secure on mandating vaccines for federal workers, in addition to for journey and so forth. So there’s a number of work to do and I’m very excited to get to work on these.

Abigail Bimman: Melissa Lantsman, is that sufficient for you? I do know your celebration put out an announcement saying {that a} Conservative authorities would have gotten again to work sooner. What do you assume?

Melissa Lantsman, Conservative MP, Thornhill: Nicely, I believe that’s completely true. I believe after, you recognize, after Mr. Trudeau crossed the nation during the last, you recognize, during the last 36 days simply lower than a month in the past saying that this was an important election since World Struggle II, you’d assume that we might be referred to as again to work in-person, in Parliament, you recognize, with lower than 62 days of trip. So I believe Canadians anticipate that their parliamentarians go and combat for them in Ottawa they usually do this inside an affordable timeline. I don’t know anyone who after a vital election says that we should always take a trip for 62 days.

Abigail Bimman: All proper. And Lisa Marie Barron, I wish to ask you the NDP helped the minority Liberals go laws time and time once more within the final Parliament. Do you assume your celebration will observe that playbook this time round?

Lisa Marie Barron, NDP MP-Elect, Nanaimo—Ladysmith: Thanks for having me on right here and likewise I’m very joyful to be on right here with different MPs. what we all know is that the NDP MPs proceed to combat for folks, proceed to combat for the atmosphere, and that’s what we’ll see transferring ahead. We’re excited to get to work and know that we are going to proceed to push for folks. Individuals are struggling proper now. We’re seeing that and listening to that. That’s what our MPs have introduced ahead in our first caucus assembly was speaking about how will we combat for the folks which are struggling and combat to deal with the local weather disaster.

Abigail Bimman: However how do you assume that interaction will work with the Liberals? Will you assist prop up this minority authorities once more on this new Parliament?

Lisa Marie Barron, NDP MP-Elect, Nanaimo—Ladysmith: Yeah, we will certainly proceed to push Trudeau’s Liberals to do higher for folks, and certain do hope that this authorities will work with the NDP to get the work finished and that’s precisely what we’ll proceed to do, is push for that to occur.

Abigail Bimman: All proper. One other sizzling matter proper now could be this query of whether or not it must be necessary for MPs to be vaccinated after they come and sit within the Home of Commons. I wish to begin with Melissa Lantsman. Throughout the marketing campaign, your chief didn’t mandate vaccinations for candidates. The place do you stand on whether or not all of your MP colleagues, you recognize, sitting side-by-side within the Home must be mandated to be vaccinated?

Melissa Lantsman, Conservative MP, Thornhill: Look, I believe in the beginning, Parliament wants to come back again in-person. I don’t assume that we’ve heard that essentially from the federal government, and I do know that negotiations haven’t began but. They’ll begin shortly about what that return in-person seems like. However completely, it shouldn’t be digital.

On the query of vaccines, like I believe vaccines are vital. I’m vaccinated. I’m double-vaccinated. I encourage others to get vaccinated. And whereas these negotiations are occurring, I believe that the federal government must be clear on what it’s going to take to get folks again into the Home and in lower than a month from now.

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Abigail Bimman: Okay, however I’m not likely listening to a transparent place on whether or not you assume it’s vital that your caucus colleagues or that each one MPs…

Melissa Lantsman, Conservative MP, Thornhill: I believe it’s—look, I completely assume it’s vital to be vaccinated. I’m vaccinated. Once more, we’re going to have these discussions in our caucus. We’re going to make that place recognized. However by way of the negotiation of what occurs within the Home that occurs between the Home leaders and the management in each events on what a return to Parliament seems like.

Abigail Bimman: Okay. And on that return to Parliament, Lena Metlege Diab, I’m going to ask you on each factors there. Ought to Parliament be in-person solely? And, what do you consider all MPs being vaccinated or having that be necessary?

Lena Metlege Diab, Liberal MP-Elect, Halifax West: So we all know that Canadians need us to maintain them secure. We additionally know that science and epidemiology has instructed us that vaccination is the way in which via this pandemic. In order that’s why I imagine it’s vital for elected officers to point out management on this query and actually, I come from Nova Scotia and have been a cupboard minister right here for the final eight years, and I’m joyful to say that even the federal government right here in Nova Scotia has made {that a} precedence and has mandated that each one elected provincial officers additionally needed to be vaccinated and actually, they’ve returned to the Home simply this week. So I imagine that for these MPs that select to set foot within the Home of Commons that they do must be vaccinated except they’ve a transparent medical exemption. Once more, I’m not a physician nor am I an epidemiologist, however there’s a manner there. In any other case, I believe they, you recognize, they I’d imagine must be given the chance to attend nearly and I imagine that’s the best factor for us to do for Canadians.

Abigail Bimman: In order that’s attention-grabbing as a result of that leaves the door open to a digital Parliament out of your perspective. Do you imagine that there must be a digital Parliament, digital committees? The place do you stand on that a part of the problem?

Lena Metlege Diab, Liberal MP-Elect, Halifax West: Once more, MPs have been all elected of their respective ridings to symbolize their communities. All of us have an obligation, although, to symbolize our communities, however we even have an obligation to symbolize all Canadians. And in doing so, proper now, the pandemic is a disaster throughout the nation, significantly in some provinces greater than others, and it’s incumbent on us to make sure that we set a superb instance and we do get vaccinated. So I urge these MPs that aren’t vaccinated to please get themselves vaccinated…

Abigail Bimman: Sorry, Ms. Metlege Diab, I’m simply going to chop you off there since you’re answering about vaccination, however I used to be taken with your reply on digital Parliament. Do you imagine there must be digital sittings within the Home, committee conferences? Ought to digital nonetheless be on the desk at this level within the pandemic?

Lena Metlege Diab, Liberal MP-Elect, Halifax West: My desire could be in-person. As I mentioned earlier than, MPs have been elected to symbolize their ridings and they should have a possibility to try this. Having mentioned that, I believe returning November twenty second will give all of them a possibility to truly get vaccinated, in the event that they haven’t but gotten vaccinated. And everyone knows they’re not going to have the ability to fly in to Ottawa for that. So I encourage all of them to get vaccinated.

Abigail Bimman: All proper, thanks. And Lisa Marie Barron, I do know there’s—we now have these two questions on the desk that you just haven’t had a query to reply there. So necessary vaccinations for MPs, and what about the way forward for Parliament? Digital or in-person?

Lisa Marie Barron, NDP MP-Elect, Nanaimo—Ladysmith: Yeah, thanks. Jagmeet has made it very clear, Jagmeet Singh, our chief of the NDP, has made it very clear from the start that we must be setting robust management, an instance on easy methods to greatest transfer ahead and we all know that with the extra of us which are vaccinated, the higher. And so all NDP members of Parliament are double-vaccinated and, you recognize, I’ve been double-vaccinated, my kids have been double-vaccinated. And so we undoubtedly imagine that our management must be setting that instance and persevering with to extend all those that are vaccinated.

So far as assembly, you recognize, in fact assembly in-person is all the time significantly better for us to have the ability to work collectively, however I’m going to proceed to hear for the recommendation from our medical well being specialists round, you recognize, how we greatest transfer ahead. We hope that this pandemic, that circumstances will lower, however the future’s unknown proper now, so we’ll see what our medical well being specialists suggest and we’ll, in fact, proceed to be artistic to make sure that our ridings are represented. And yeah, favor to be in-person in fact, however we’ll see what occurs.

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Abigail Bimman: We’ll see—quite a bit to see within the weeks forward. That’s on a regular basis now we have. Thanks a lot to our panel of recent MPs from coast to coast, an all-female panel. Thanks a lot for becoming a member of us on The West Block.

Nicely nonetheless forward, Quebec grapples with the potential penalties of a vaccine mandate in a employees strapped well being care sector.

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Abigail Bimman: Welcome again. This week, Quebec’s well being minister introduced the province is suspending its necessary vaccination requirement for well being care employees by one month. Christian Dubé says as many as 25 thousand employees aren’t vaccinated and if the plan to droop them with out pay this month went forward, the influence of labour shortages on an already stretched system could be too nice.

Christian Dubé, Quebec Well being Minister: “We wish to give the unvaccinated employees additional time to gather their dose, however I wish to be clear: we’ll apply the necessary vaccination for well being care employees, however suspending the 30-day deadline is one of the best answer below the circumstances.”

Abigail Bimman: And becoming a member of me now to debate that is Nathan Friedland, a nurse at a Montreal hospital. Thanks a lot for becoming a member of us and naturally, for all of your work on the frontlines. I wish to ask what you consider this announcement. Will it’s sufficient to get as many as 25 thousand folks vaccinated?

Nathan Friedland, Emergency Room Nurse, Montreal: I believe it’s a horrible choice by the well being minister and no, I don’t assume it is going to be sufficient to get 22 thousand well being care employees vaccinated.

The entire thing behind well being care is there must be accountability. With out accountability, well being care doesn’t work. And the well being minister tried to carry us accountable and he failed. Now Mr. Dubé gave us a purpose that 35 per cent of long-term care services would lose vital companies if he went forward with the deadline. I don’t have to remind you that long-term care centres in Quebec have been like loss of life homes. There have been actually 1000’s and 1000’s of aged folks that died in long-term care services on this province. We lead Canada in deaths. How is it that there are nonetheless well being care employees in long-term care services that aren’t vaccinated? These individuals are aged, they’re at-risk. They’re going to get a 3rd dose. This speaks to a scarcity of…

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Abigail Bimman: So could I ask you, Mr. Friedland, what—inform us in regards to the why since you work alongside—you recognize a number of colleagues in well being care and we don’t usually discuss in regards to the why behind the hesitancy. Why do you assume there are these 1000’s of individuals nonetheless unvaccinated?

Nathan Friedland, Emergency Room Nurse, Montreal: It’s sadly a scarcity of professionalism, a lack of expertise and I hear causes like oh effectively, my physique can combat the virus higher than the vaccine can. The vaccine has a microchip in it. The federal government’s attempting to regulate us. I imply these are well being care professionals. That is unprofessional of them.

Abigail Bimman: You’re listening to well being care professionals who imagine that there’s a microchip? Wow.

Nathan Friedland, Emergency Room Nurse, Montreal: Sure. Sure. Sure. I imply, that is simply unbelievable to me. And he had an opportunity to carry us accountable, which occurs very not often in well being care and he didn’t take it.

Abigail Bimman: I wish to ask you what you assume ought to have been finished in another way, as a result of had he, as you set it, held you and well being care employees to account, there could be this staffing scarcity. What do you assume the federal government ought to do going ahead?

Nathan Friedland, Emergency Room Nurse, Montreal: I believe that no matter information he was offered with, that’s not the information that I see the place I work. And I work in a really busy emergency room that’s plagued with employees shortages and we might have dealt with this deadline simply high-quality. Now if it’s a case of long-term care centres not having sufficient folks vaccinated, which he acknowledged, I imply that’s clearly simply pathetic that these employees aren’t vaccinated after they noticed folks of their services die from this virus. They need to all be vaccinated. A 100 per cent of them must be vaccinated by now. So his reasoning to me doesn’t maintain water. And now…

Abigail Bimman: Okay. I take your level about long-term care, however you assume that hospitals would be capable of handle the burden if unvaxxed employees weren’t on the job?

Nathan Friedland, Emergency Room Nurse, Montreal: I may let you know that mine would have.

Abigail Bimman: All proper. Nicely thanks a lot in your insights into this matter. I actually admire your time immediately.

Nathan Friedland, Emergency Room Nurse, Montreal: You’re welcome.

Abigail Bimman: That was Nathan Friedland, a nurse at a Montreal hospital. And sadly, that’s on a regular basis now we have. Thanks for spending a part of your Sunday with us. I’m Abigail Bimman. Have an incredible week.

 

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